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Post by northernmonkey on Oct 14, 2008 19:38:38 GMT
Anyone know what they were? I understand Guy didn't do to well... pretty much like everyone else!
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Post by origo on Oct 14, 2008 20:19:07 GMT
Sign of the times...
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Post by GuyDenning on Oct 14, 2008 22:00:19 GMT
It's not bad for me. It's bad for people that treat my work like a bloody stock option. When I was in the UK last Le Tunnadine showed me the catalogue and I thought the reserves were a bit erm... optimistic?
The only auction that has work direct from me is Bonhams - and in next week's auction ONE of those on sale is direct from me. And it's a bloody big piece that took a lot of time and work - and I think the reserve is reasonable (bearing in mind how much of the price I end up with).
I'm not going anywhere and hopefully there's a lot of work left in me. A lot of tonight's auction was old work and the prices should have reflected that.
I've got no problem with people that have bought my work because they like it but through circumstance are forced to sell it - indeed they should go for whatever they can get. But those that buy, turn around, fart twice and attempt to sell for unrealistic reserves should be a bit more careful. I wouldn't buy art for an investment - that's just perverse. Buyer beware? I don't think so - not if you buy it for the right reasons. More like vendor beware...
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Post by redfred on Oct 14, 2008 22:21:49 GMT
Agree entirely, buy art because you like it, markets change and thats the nature of things but if you have bought because you want a profit then you could be in for a fall. I dont have a huge collection maybe 12 pieces but from a monetry viewpoint the ones showing the most increase are the 4 signed Banksys, maybe 10 times what I paid for them, but the pieces I LOVE are my Micallef my Dali and my Denning in no particular order! I dont think the pieces auctioned tonight were anywhere near his best otherwise I would have bought one instead of begging Red Propeller to sell me one of his pieces from the new show!!!!!
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Post by Standard Daz on Oct 15, 2008 7:32:29 GMT
^ agree, whilst it's nice to know that your possession is likely to, or has appreciated in value, the sole reason of ownership should be enjoyment of hanging the bloody things on the wall and looking at them!
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Post by northernmonkey on Oct 15, 2008 8:03:21 GMT
agree with everyones comments, what i meant was that Guy gets a cut from the sales (albeit small) and didn't really get much. It was evident that a lot of what was being sold at Dreweatts was from a lot of 'flippers'...
Anyway, upwards and onwards... looking forward to the next few months of Guys work out in London and America.
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Post by Standard Daz on Oct 15, 2008 8:55:20 GMT
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Post by downside on Oct 15, 2008 13:21:49 GMT
I have to agree with Redfred always buy because you like the piece in the first instance,its nice to know that the value has gone up but if it goes down which it may well do you have to live with it on your walls,not that good if you only bought for a monetary gain.I too have an original Micalleff and as much as it is tempting to sell when I only bought it for £1700 direct from Antony but.........once it`s gone its gone for ever !!
Redfred: We must have similar taste as I have two of Guys and a couple of Harry Simmons !!
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Post by manty on Oct 15, 2008 14:48:32 GMT
I like the stock option comment
Funny, but very true
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Post by bobthecat on Oct 15, 2008 18:03:28 GMT
If its about money stick fifty quid notes on the wall in frame ?
You buy what you like.
I buy Guy Denning prints because i love the art. I cant afford an OG, I hope one day to get one small or large, because i love the art and i must own one, because i so love the skill of Guy Denning, it says something to me it speaks to me.
I'm not an art critic or an expert on frames, i have no MA in art etc. I know what i like.
Yes the stuff will go up and make no bones about it will go down, probably big style, but you have it, an OG a LTD ed print no one else has its unique its yours. Its your to love to cherish to look and gaze at in all its glory, the strokes, the text, the meaning the colors. Every day yours to see every day, yours to show, on your wall your Guy Denning. Its art and i love it.
Or you can spend 40/50k on the pieces stuff it in a vault sit on it until Guy dies and sell it. Thats probably financially sound if your a management accountant etc. But if you do that or are mercenary in your thoughts on the pieces the art means nothing its just a commodity with no feeling with no emotion with no love
Enjoy enjoy enjoy and you with GD OGs i envy you all, keep them at all costs and if you need to sell let them go to good homes at all times if you can.
Rant over.
BTC
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Post by redfred on Oct 15, 2008 19:07:26 GMT
^ What that man just said - very well put! - ENJOY.
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Post by northernmonkey on Oct 15, 2008 20:21:04 GMT
applause BTC! I must admit, you have kinda put something in to perspective... my 'Cheap Cosmetic Surgery' is, as far as I understand, unseen by anyone except Guy (and probably his close friends) and Alison at Art File. Even a lot of Damien Hirst, Picasso, Hockney, Banksy, Van Gogh, etc etc etc have never been that exclusive! Am I right Guy... it was never in a show or on public display?!?!?
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Post by photoxtc on Oct 16, 2008 0:30:35 GMT
It's nice to see that people aren't on here freaking out about the auction results... I think it's safe to say that most of us here really have a great appreciation for GD's talent and can care less if his pieces sell for 1k or 50k at auction... well.... We kind of hope they don't go that high so we can still afford them  |
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